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Thursday, February 11, 2010

Demagogue


we pause in our regularly scheduled programing for a time out for politics

Although most of the time, I have stuck to my decision to watch very little or no news. I made an exception when the tea party met for what was labeled a convention but seemed more like a conference where they listened to speakers. This had interest to me on several levels as I am mystified why they receive so much coverage since at this point, their numbers appear to be pretty small, yet they get national cable outlets covering their every move-- misspelled words and all. (If you can't spell moron, should you use the word in a sign seen on national TV? Could Tom Tancredo's literacy test disqualify you from voting?)

When listening to Sarah Palin give her big 'acceptance' speech, I felt an amazement that this woman is so close to being a presidential candidate for one of our two major parties. I heard the pundits (right and left) talk about what a wonderful speaker she is, the best Republican speaker since Reagan and I kept wondering-- huh!!??? This is wonderful?

While it's true that she moves crowds and she is beautiful of the kind that is more than pretty features but interesting face; but a great speaker??? Come on! She doesn't have a pleasing tone to her voice but worse than that, she doesn't say anything! She makes jokes where she knows they will get laughs taking no risks with something like 'How's that hopey, changey stuff working out for ya?' Funny or not, it was a line with a hook easily repeated for the mind-numbed media and those of her mindset (assuming she has a mindset other than for $100k I'll say whatever you want.)

From what I can tell tea-baggers do have some major themes. They are mad that somebody else is running their country. They don't want to pay taxes but cheer at the thought of a bigger war with Iran. They don't like government except when they are receiving a check from it. They are angry at those, who don't look like themselves, and are ruining their country. They want a war where someone says they know who to attack (and it won't cost them personally a dime).

Show someone like Joseph Farah, who operates an extreme right wing online newspaper, a birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, and he will close his eyes refusing to look. It doesn't suit his agenda, and he maybe does have one although exactly what is always hard to say with media people.

The Tea Party people's biggest thing appears to be a desire to hear someone like Palin rip someone else apart. Verbal warfare is cheap... other than that $100,000 that she will donate to a good cause (I bet she's got a couple of those real close to home). Palin is good at ripping up other people. How does that work for governing? Tea Partiers don't care about governing. This is about dismantling except dismantling what?

Palin doesn't have to answer with specifics. She doesn't have to defend her ability to govern since these people don't like governing anyway. If they cared, her record is as a mayor who bordered on the corrupt (got her home on the cheap while giving the company who built it a big contract for an indoor sports center that put her small city in deep debt) and quitting as governor after 2 1/2 years, would give them concern-- but they don't care. Those who vote for her are more about what she is against rather than what she might be for (other than Jesus Christ).

The issue though for me is what kind of speaker is she actually? Listening to her, hearing the cheers, clearly she registers with those who want literacy tests to keep some people from voting, who think someone half black with an ethnic name could not possibly have been born in their United States, who believe taxes can be cut while they fight wars, who think there is a lot of waste in government but they can't explain what it is, and with the media (both sides). Talk about a need for a literacy test...

Then her appeal dawned on me. She's a demagogue [dictionary definition: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power]. It's what she does and why she's effective with her crowd. It's why I listen to her and do not hear a good speaker. She is an effective demagogue.

Palin is urging the tea-baggers to do what they already want to do. She says they should start a revolution but leaderless. What they will do if they take over power? Do they know? Dismantle government? End Social Security? End Medicare? Put welfare families into work camps? They don't talk about what their revolution would do except cut taxes and go back to the 1700s, I guess. I wonder how many of them know what it was like back then (their women wouldn't even be able to vote).

If we do as Palin suggested and attack Iran, not only will this be against a foreign military that is more powerful than any we have faced in recent years, but it will rile up the rest of the Middle East and farther. The terrorists are not coming from Iran. They haven't come from Iraq. They have trained in Afghanistan but with their kind of facilities, they can do it anywhere at any time including our own backyard if we don't have effective police work to stop them first.

No, the group supporting Palin want whatever they thought they had but likely never did. And they are angry at a usurper running this country. That anger insures they would vote for her with no clue what would come next. There is a lack of logic revealed in poll after poll (and not just by them):


It's not like someone like Palin cannot get the nomination from the party of no, from the party who favors breaking international treaties, who feel they are the only ones with a right to criticize their own behavior because they are supported by their concept of god. If those people get back in power, then what? I can guarantee you the tea-baggers don't have a clue.


If you are a supporter of Mitt Romney, Mike Pence, or any other halfway reasonable sounding Republican candidate for president, I suggest you donate sooner than later to their campaigns. Later will be too late unless some big secret of Sarah Palin's comes to the surface and most of what journalists might discover won't matter to her supporters. They won't believe it. Theirs is a movement of emotion, not logic.

Where it comes to Republicans, I won't agree with any of them on policy, but I don't think some of you would like what would come under a Palin presidency much better than I would. And anybody who thought she was only in the past is sticking their head in the sand or wants you to put yours there. She's very much in the present and she hopes the future.

Palin didn't have those crib notes on her hand to deliver her speech. She can deliver a written speech just fine using even a teleprompter, when she doesn't want to make that an accusation, or use a written speech on paper. No, those notes were to be able to answer questions in the following interview. On her hand, she had crossed out budget in favor of tax cuts (which means more of the Bush years if she got in-- tax cuts but none from the budget. If you like that, you must also like deficits).

Moderate Republicans are being pushed out in every place that the extreme right can run someone. Soon there will be two parties in this country. One will be the Christocrats, running under the symbol of the cross (yes, the country will be crucified if this group is voted into power) and the other the Duck-for-Cover party whose symbol will be the white feather.

If you are a Palin fan, please tell me why? Is it just because Democrats don't like her? That's not much of a reason for voting for someone to run this country, is it?

The lambs don't relate to the tea party or Palin. But they are coming fast right now and the barn is full of the baa of lambs and the soothing mmuuhhhs from their mothers-- especially since outside it's raining.

17 comments:

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Paul said...

A question Rain. What countries are promting terrorism or aiding terrorists in your opinion ?

Anonymous said...

I sense that you have an animus towards anything Christian...

Rain said...

Anonymous, do you think the 'form' of Christianity that we have today has anything to do with what Christ taught? I have an animus toward what is called Christianity today. If you read the book of Revelations, and take it seriously, you see that all along there have been these big groups who claim Christianity but ignore most of what Christ taught if not all.

And Paul, Saudi Arabia had most of them for 9/11 which means their system has to be propagating it somehow. Pakistan today, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, probably Syria would all come more in line with the form of terrorism we are experiencing. I don't like the way Iran is but the question would be why would people who don't want current tax levels support a war that will be a very real war and do nothing to help stop terrorism when it's an ideology that can be taught anywhere including here or say in Europe.

Anonymous said...

Touche, touche, touche!
Sorry, I don't have French accents on my machine.
Elaine in Canada

mandt said...

Those lambs remind me of my first 4-H project! and, animus toward Christianity and the abomination it has become is widely shared. Most good hearted Christians walk the talk, practice their beliefs sincerely and live their faith. The others are just clanging gongs and pathetic materialists.

Annotated Margins said...

Palin doesn't scare me as much as the people who support her. And they scare me silly. The people of Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan do not scare me.

Anonymous said...

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Mary Lou said...

I shuddered when I got the first glimpse of her! i was a die hard Republican and was really leaning towards the right, but I really liked what Obama was saying, even before he was nominated. It was when McCain introduced Sarah as his running mate that I said OHMIGAWD! He wants her to be one heartbeat away from running this country? NO WAY! And I Leaned to the left! Sarah is out for what Sarah can get, not for what is good for the country.

La Brea said...

The truth?
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
(And that article is written by lefty Ted Rall.)

Rain said...

LaBrea, I don't agree with the article but read it. I don't think anybody but an extremist (which can be found in both parties) would think Obama is dumb. Wrong, now that he might be but dumb, no way. You can be quite intelligent and wrong.

Americans do want health care but they don't want to pay for it which is a lot of what has been getting us into the problem we face today. Want wars-- no cost. Want clean air-- no cost. Want fair elections-- no cost. And on it goes.

There are very few people who don't see a serious problem with today's health care situation but who wants to face a cost of dealing with it? Not Republicans or Democrats. Obama is not dumb and maybe Palin isn't either. She just might be lazy and not willing to do the work to learn what most consider important for a leader. BUT whether she's intelligent or not isn't the issue for me. It's which way she would take the country and I see nothing in anything she says to suggest she has a clue or has a real plan beyond rhetoric.

The truth is that Obama has pleased neither the extremes of the right or the left. For all the 'ignorant' talk that he's a socialist by people who have no clue what socialism is, he doesn't go far enough left to suit the far left. he's too pro business. I also think he's naive about the Republicans who he keeps trying to work with as they constantly undercut him. Forget bipartisanship and just get it done... but maybe he never wanted to get 'er done.

I have said here many times I am reserving judgment on him and that is still the case. I just don't know that Republican will nominate anyone who is a realistic option.

La Brea said...

And anyone who can look at the government takeover of GM and Chrysler, along with AIG, has no idea what the word "socialism" means.
Sharing the wealth?
He is a socialist to his very core.

Rain said...

The right wing never ceases to amaze me. Chrysler was bought by Fiat. How does that equate to being the US. The United States basically loaned GM the money to stay going but it is to be paid back. Did you want it to be just given to them? You on the right would never be satisfied with anything Obama did. IF the United States intended to keep GM, even then it'd be a minor example of what socialism means but that is not the intent. I am guessing you don't work for them, don't care if GM goes down; but if you did, you might see the US continuing to manufacture autos being important. You still would if it was someone like Palin who did it... You guys are amazing. the biggest mistake Obama has made is thinking he can deal with you at all.

La Brea said...

..."even then it'd be a minor example of what socialism means but that is not the intent."

Thank you.
I don't care about the intent.
(What was that saying about the road to Hell?)
I care about what it IS.

Rain said...

I wrote a lengthy reply to you, labrea but blogger literally ate it. Perhaps for the best. I will say I also don't want to see us turn socialist or fascist. I have worried a lot more about fascism than I do about the European version of socialism which is what we are talking about here. I suspect that Europe's economic problems will make a lot of people reconsider going too far in promising too much.

What gets me with people like you is you don't seem to worry about fighting wars every which direction and yet health care for your neighbor, now that's really scary.

It seems to me the world is on a collision course with disaster and it's a lot of why I don't write much about politics right now. I see it as getting me or anybody else nowhere. I do read more than I should about it though although I avoid the really angry types. I think there are things that matter more, and what we cannot do something about right now, we should let go. Voting will come soon enough.

Do you ever read any of my other topics here? There is more to life than Obama or Palin things like love, beauty, relationships... Heck I even have a blog coming the 18th on a beauty queen with quite a spread on her...

Too bad i lost all that I wrote but I doubt we'd convince each other. Hopefully you will comment on more than the political stuff here. I always enjoy articulate discussion-- even when people don't agree with me.

Rain said...

Incidentally, LaBrea, why are you using a word which means tar pits but links to Drudge? Does that mean you consider Drudge a pit? *s* Just curious. Since I allow anonymous posts here, you don't need to use a phony link with your name.

One of the things I said that got lost is the reason I would say it's minor is because it's not a major part of our manufacturing base. If I thought the government intended to keep GM, I'd not like it either but my guess is if it cannot become more profitable, the collateral will be sold and someone else will get a shot at it. I hope for the best since I own a Silverado truck and since I consider it very well made, I'd like to be able to buy another one someday.

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