For anyone concerned about what the recently passed H.R.3962, Health care reform, will actually do, it's online. It's long but when we let someone else interpret things for us, we get their slant. This likely won't be what ends up in any actual bill after the Senate gets through ranting over how much they love the American people *tears* but that so many not having health care is not their problem *stern expression*.
What has irked me is all those legislators and right wingers ranting over how this will kill people. Do they possibly pay attention to what is happening right now? Never mind, I know they don't. They talk taxes and half their fans quit thinking. The fact is that these costs are being born now-- one way or another.
Anyway for those who are told the bill isn't there and nobody knows what is in it. Here it is:
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2000 pages passed on a Saturday night by the slimmest of margins. Sounds like how I want the most important legislation in 60 years pushed through. You would think they would want everyone on board and have a big ceremony. But instead Pelosi is looking at it like it is a football game and she won and that is all that matters. Who cares what it says and means.
They spent months, years in some cases working on this BUT it's not the final bill; so people need to know what is in it, see if they dislike it or think it's good and let their senators know. This is a long way from a done deal. Since I don't watch anybody who shows a lot of Nancy Pelosi talking, I have no clue what she's saying. It seems MSNBC always wants to run what Rush said. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Keep in mind that unless the Senate accepted it exactly as it is, which they won't remotely, the House has to vote again on whatever compromise is reached; and we are approaching the year when they all get re-elected if they don't get booted; so this won't be simple if anything comes from it.
I know one thing that our insurance company doubled our supplemental premium and everybody else who has insurance that we know (corporate connection) and are now going to give less coverage. This isn't even relating to what Congress might or might not do. It's the coming of the new way if you don't have a company who will cover you totally.
Isn't that funny how MSNBC says that Rush is just an entertainer and he is a non-factor, but they quote him almost daily.
MSNBC lists him as a non-factor? Who do you listen to there that would fit that idea? To me, they run everything he says, at least that's controversial, because they consider him a major voice for Republicans-- as they do Sarah Palin. He probably influences about 17 million right wingers if his own estimate of his numbers is accurate.
MSNBC running him so much drives me nuts because if I wanted to listen to him or see him in an interview, I'd do it. I find it revolting that they give those people so much air time and it's caused me to often turn to PBS if I am watching news at the right time.
Both MSNBC and Fox are oriented toward making people mad which is what most right wing or left wing radio also wants to do. That drives up ratings but also bp. No thanks. I avoid talk radio except when I'm in a car and there is no good music playing.
I have been watching PBS news lately on the rare occasion that I actually watch TV news instead of the internet.
Hi Rain...
How can you say its not a final bill?
Cheap, it is a final House bill but only would become law IF the Senate accepted it exactly as it is. If that happened, the Senate would vote, accept and it would go to the president to sign. Any of those steps can stop it.
The Senate will look at the House bill and come up with their own version of it. That goes to Conference between the two bodies where they work out something they can both agree to which must again be voted on by the whole body in the Senate and the House. It would only become law if that happened and the president signed it.
I urged my senators to filibuster this bill because it doesn't have a robust public option. I don't believe that perfection is the enemy of good, I think protecting every citizen is the enemy of big money. I hate seeing what Congress has done in the interest of the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. It's time to take profit out of health care.
Do a word search of "ethnic" in the bill. 50 years of trying to achieve racial equality and this bill puts race and ethnic quotas on health care financing, insurance, clinics, medical schools, nursing schools. You name it they have a racial component for it. Why not just have a health-care bill about health-care. It could be 5 pages. If you have a pre-existing condition an insurance company cannot deny you. If you sell insurance you can sell it in every state. If you don't have insurance and want it and don't make any money we will help you get it. Maybe it could be one page.
Congress does nothing simple and bills like this always hide a lot of things. I don't care which party it is. The solution to health care would be single payer like England has and it wouldn't require a lot of complexities. The insurance systems with which most of us live have so much complexity that nobody understands any of it. We are facing it again since our insurance changed already as the supplemental package and trying to go through the various options, understand what they offer, what they cost, it's enough to drive you nuts if you weren't already.
Rain, exactly you are on the right way i totally agree with you.
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