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Friday, February 13, 2009

Political Rant Coming On

For anyone who has had enough politics in the last two years to last them, feel free to enjoy the photo and not read farther today. The view is what I see when I look out the window toward the hill to the south and one reason I don't mind rainy days with how the mist creates layers and almost a mystical quality to the land around me.

It has been a volatile, heavily partisan time in American politics most especially the last two weeks as a new president steps into the power structure and the issue of how to help our economy is debated-- often heatedly. Sometimes you wonder how those from each party can see the same event so differently-- but it's in the nature of humans.

Yes, I understand how important it is to think positive, to be positive; but sometimes a person just needs to vent if they don't want to explode. No amount of trying to feel good or concentrate on other things is enough. For me this is one of those times in triplicate-- and then some.

I am not sure in which order this all came. The most irritating is where I'll start. That would be Cheney on his media circuit trying to still control the government. He defended and demanded the new administration do what he had done regarding torture, secret prisons, holding prisoners with no evidence, fighting a war with no evidence to support the need, deflecting terrorism attacks by above methods, all of which is why we (the should-be grateful citizens) were kept safe-- and if this isn't done, we will be blown away by the bad guys and it'll be Obama's fault.

Cheney, as only he can do it, explained torture worked great (he didn't add just like on the TV show 24/7 but you could tell he watches it). Do keep in mind though that these averted attacks were like the 'terrorists' with few if any weapons who planned (encouraged by someone) to attack Fort Dix. Excuse me but did they think maybe there were a few armed, warriors stationed there? Guess not. Did someone sucker them into thinking they could do it, someone who got rewarded for doing that? How would we know?

And on it went with that old man (who is basically my age but seems came from another era for how he thinks and talks), who has followed the path of Svengali (yes fictional but still good example), Machiavelli, Cesare Borgia, and any other leader who manipulated others into following their ideas. He clearly is not ready to give up his power and will continue his shadow administration from a secret location in Florida.

Then there was Representative Pete Sessions from Texas who suggested the Republicans start an insurgency following the oh so successful playbook of the Taliban. I can't even comment on that, at least not and remain a lady, but can you imagine, if ANY democrat said the same thing, what you'd hear from the right. What did you hear about this on say Fox, Hannity or Rush? Silence? Guess they agreed-- minus the car bombings I assume.

How about the ones who are up there in the Capitol still arguing the New Deal failed because it only reduced unemployment from 25% to 15%. That might be one that could be discussed with some of the elders who actually lived through that time-- although many are now gone and only their stories linger on. I don't know of anyone in my family who didn't believe Roosevelt's programs had helped their lives. These though were ordinary people and who (except 20% of die-hard Republicans) believes Republicans care about the average working person? Example: who worried that CEOs might have their pay limited to half a million dollars (plus possible future compensations if they paid back the debt) if they accepted government bail out?

Monday I was watching some news (often a mistake right now), and a Republican politician came on to debate a Democratic politician. The Republican was smug, interrupted constantly, raised his voice, didn't listen to anything anybody else said-- including the host. His mantra was equivalently that only Ronald Reagan has had a good idea in the last 100 years.

To listen to these guys, government is the only problem this country has, and tax cuts are always the solution-- especially if they go to the richest citizens. How do average citizens then repair roads/bridges, maintain police and fire services, run schools (they don't like public education so that one is easy ), upgrade airports, fight the wars they are so fond of justifying, and on it goes. It is however the only thing Republicans know to say and it explains a lot of our crumbling infrastructure given they have had power for almost 20 years because even during the Clinton presidency, they ran the Congress (more about this below).

Why this guy, and others like him, who hate government, don't retire on their fat pensions is beyond me. They usually go into the private sector as lobbyists and continue to make money off government but then they didn't have real jobs to start. That's what the new RNC chairman said. Only the private sector has real jobs and even there nobody who works on contract, which means painters, construction trades, consultants, ranchers, small storekeepers, and millions of other only have work, not jobs.

When I yelled at the television several times with words I won't repeat here but do happen to know, I thought this is ridiculous. I am a Libra. Libras are polite people. We simply don't yell at anybody-- let alone a poor dumb TV set, but I did.

Do I defend the Nancy Pelosi side? No and they make me almost as mad. For years we were told they had no power because the Republicans had the majority. Wait a minute did the Republicans have a 60 vote majority? No, they often had barely a majority of one if the Vice-President voted with them. So what is going on here? The Republicans will filibuster. Oh woe. Cry me a river! Clearly the Democrats weren't willing to take that drastic step. What does that say about Democratic wimps? You know the answer. I am so sick of both parties that I can barely type their names without growling.

Only one thing made me feel good recently in the political arena and that was Barack Obama's press conference, but the right criticized that also because he worked it from a list which had on it the name of a representative from the various media (including Huffington Post horrors). That convinced the wingnuts that he had the questions submitted ahead of time. They prefer the president to point at someone, which still is under his control, ignore other media (unless it was that guy who was actually a male escort), avoid those who ask uncomfortable questions (which prelisted or not, the president knows who those might be), and maybe nickname them something demeaning because he can't remember their real names. Speaking their real names and the media from which they came gave them an accountability that a listener could follow.

What Obama said in the press conference, to me, showed his goals for our government go farther than I had thought-- but not farther than he said during the campaign. The ones who listened to Obama's answers (no Republicans probably as likely they had their TV on mute) couldn't help but see this is a man with a concept that goes beyond job creation to a whole new government system. No, rightwingers, I don't mean back to socialism (although we have had elements of that in our culture for a long time). I am talking about going back to the original Constitutional concept for our government.

At one time it was expected that Congress would have two branches that didn't take their marching orders from the President but that were co-equals with him in devising solutions to problems facing the country. One was to be represenatives of the people with two year terms to make it more likely they wouldn't be career politicians. (that has worked sooooo well) This would be a Congress not run by lobbyists but real patriots, who worked from their different political agendas to find solutions that benefited the country as a whole. You are laughing!

I don't know when this got subverted but probably Reagan can take some credit. He is still the hero of the right and was of a mind that government was the problem, never the solution (except probably for wars) and that tax cuts solve all problems (at least that is how his theories are being interpreted today). It is his ideas that the Republicans still think will solve all problems-- big military, small everything else, and paid for by...

The first George Bush called Reagan's thinking voodoo economics, but there are a group, who no matter what charts you show them, no matter what anecdotal evidence, still see Reagan's ideas as good as he was-- and I do believe he was a good man but with an archaic set of ideas, straight out of movie sets, that do not work for the world we face today if they ever did.

More recently we had the Bushies who believed in a dictatorial presidency who told everyone below them what to do; and if they couldn't get the laws they wanted, they had signing statements and executive orders to ignore Congress. They also believed in wars-- but not paying for them.

Congress has gotten used to giving out blank checks. Both parties, working together, at least on something, managed to double our national deficit in 8 years. The Republicans only got new religion when they lost the White House and saw a possible way to regain power.

The end result has been a Congress (again both parties) with no new methods or ideas. Can they learn new ways or do we have to vote them all out to get a change? For now, maybe it's handy that they are used to a dictating president. It's what they apparently liked; so maybe it'll have to be the answer. Compromise sure isn't working.

For you commenters who love the GOP, who still think Obama is planning to sell us out to the devil, I do understand your angst. Believe me, I do.

22 comments:

robin andrea said...

Once again I have to thank you for writing the rant I would write, but just don't have the energy for it. I have a secret dream of creating a citizen oversight committee who actually reminds congress that they represent us. I am tired of feeling like a subject rather than a citizen whose interests are being represented. Sometimes I wish the country could be split up with those people who would prefer not paying taxes having their own piece, and those who don't mind paying taxes for the ideals of the common good having their own piece. This polarized stand-off is getting old. It's a very bad marriage, and I would like a divorce.

Sylvia K said...

I'm with Robin, I want a divorce and I'm too tired to rant. Glad you still have the energy to do it. I do agree with everything you've said, I'm tired of swearing at my computer everytime I go to MSNBC and figure I'm lucky not to have TV or I would already have thrown something hard at it.

Greybeard said...

Thanks for the enlightening comment.

Kay Dennison said...

As usual, very well said!!! I say that these idiots (OF BOTH PARTIES) who have been feeding from the public trough far too long need to go out and join the real world or try an interesting and novel concept: LISTENING TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

Like you, I can't talk about what's going on without cussing! I think Cheney should be placed in one of the jails Haliburton built and that Pelosi and Reid should be thrown out of office as well as every other moron in Congress who doesn't even try to fulfill his/her duties and obligations to his/her constituents.

I want term limits and no pensions for our Congress Critters and Senators (or is that Senselesstors?). I want lobbyists outlawed with stiff penalties for companies, etc. who support them as well as for Congressmen and Senators who get in bed with them.
I want a code of Ethics that's ENFORCED for these people. I am tired of all the crap we've been dealing with. I want the Fed abolished and no more "funny money". It's just another government-run scam to keep the powerful powerful.

I'm tired of these people referring to us ordinary folk as "Joe Six-pack" as if that's all we really want. With their policies and "sin" and other taxes who can afford a 6-pack?

I think we need to restore honor and honesty to government and stop the idiots who would rather put their party before before their country.

And to steal Peter Finch's great like from the film "Network", "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore." I think we should tell our government just that!!!!

Rain Trueax said...

For those interested in evaluating the Stimulus Bill spending, this is a good site to start: Stimulus Plan a detailed list of spending.

Would be nice if they included the interest that will have to be paid...

CJ said...

Rain -

It is a known fact that when you cut taxes on business and on the citizens, revenue into the government increases. Go back and look if you don't believe me. You only have to check out the revenue under the Bush administration to see how it works.

The 'stimulus package', which the non-partisan CBO says will not work, will wind up costing the taxpayers 3.5 TRILLION dollars, with interested added. That's money my nieces kids will be paying for a very long time.

Obama has lobbyists working for him. Lobbyists received a copy of this 'stimulus package' before the Republicans did.

That said - I agree with some of what you said. We need term limits. We need ethic rules not made by congress itself nor enforced by congress itself. Rangel should be in jail. So, btw, should Tom Dashcle and our Secretary of the Treasury or anyone in Washington who 'forgets' to pay their taxes or who feels they don't need to live by the same rules and laws they expect us to live by.

We need to send congress home and start over.

Oh, and for those commentors who want something done here's a simple suggestion: pay attention to how your representatives voted and vote accordingly. Write and call and don't stop. The only way they will feel they need to answer to us is if we scream too loudly for them to ignore.

What's happening to this country flat out sucks but there are far too many people who are perfectly fine with the trashing of our system - as long as they get theirs.

Ben Franklin, when asked what the Continental Congress had given the people said "A Republic, ma'am, if you can keep it." I never thought I would be alive to see it lost... but I'm afraid I have seen it.

cjh

Rain Trueax said...

In the last blog I put a list of all the places this money will go for anyone interested in seeing. During the Bush administration, Congress upped spending by more than this amount-- every single year and didn't care until it became a partisan issue. If revenue went up so much, you see what it meant for how much was spent because our deficit doubled in those 8 years.

Something has gone badly wrong because with all that spending, we still aren't working on infrastructures, our school buildings are going down hill, dams aren't being maintained and on it goes. So where has all this money gone? The poor aren't any better off. More are homeless than ever. Programs to help the mentally ill have deteriorated and private charity is where most must turn for help.

We know some went into the Iraqi war and it was not even calculated into the budget. We know some of that went to contractors with no accounability; but still that can't explain it all. Where things are deteriorating and more money is going out than ever, where does it go!

Nobody likes taxes. Who wants to have 1/3 of what you earn gone to pay taxes but if you know it does good things, that helps. What if you know it's been fraudulently taken by secret deals that we can't even follow.

One good thing that Obama did in his short time in the Senate is work with another Senator to get a transparency law in place where we can see where the money is going... all but the secret no bid deals anyway...

Dixon Webb said...

Hi Rain . . For someone not terribly interested in politics you sure compose a good rant on the subject. I'm one of those dumb joe six packs that doesn't usually or often see politics from your perspective. The dreaded words "small government conservative" come to mind.

Allow me to contribute few comments. For several years the HATE BUSH crowd has denigrated young Bush. The guy often deserved healthy criticism to be sure, but he also deserves credit for many good things he tried to do and for restoring a sense of honor and integrity to the office. History will see him as a decent and principled man.

Mr. Cheney may or may not be eventually judged quite as well, however to characterize him with blood dripping off his fangs and pulling the political marionette strings is ridiculous.

The real influence behind the throne was probably Karl Rove who quietly managed to avoid any responsibility.

Now we've elected Mr. Obama, the most unknown, inexperienced, political ultra liberal activist in the Senate. It's his turn and he has earned his opportunity.

That does not mean that we of the opposition should push on the HATE OBAMA button.

So far, in my opinion, he has made a number of serious mistakes. The worst of them is pushing through the unfortunate STIMULUS PLAN. But it's done and we now will have to wait and see.

Dixon

Rain Trueax said...

I evidently have not explained myself well, Dixon. I am very interested in politics in all relationships. I enjoy hearing about it in the work place, groups, and of course, the government. As a writer, politics are the dynamics of relationship group interaction and quite interesting to me.

Where i have the problem is in writing about it in a polite way and I have a real problem with partisan politics. I would like to think we had conservative and liberal thinkers and together they would work out what is a wise way to run programs. But Republicans aren't that conservative (see last 8 years of spending) and Democrats aren't always that liberal. To me government should run on compromise and considering what is best for the country. yeah right

As for Obama's experience. You are going by what the right says. he had 10 years in state politics. Years of teaching the constitution in a university (which means he had a real job according to RNC) and then 4 years as a US Senator. Then he ran a campaign that overturned the most popular Democrat and raised a lot of enthusiastic followers. He's had plenty of experience. More than GW Bush had with much of what he had done handed to him by family connections and his time as governor in a state where the governor is apparently more of a figurehead than a hands on legislator.

But I agree. Time will tell how well Obama does. It always is after they get in that we really know how they do. The most promising ones can fall apart under the pressure of that job and this time it's even worse than usual with the multiple problems.

Cheney got my attention because of his making the rounds of the talk programs trying to pressure Obama to not prosecute anyone for illegally torturing by continuing the policy. Otherwise, I'd be happy to forget he existed. I am sure he can retire with a tidy nest egg given how much interest he had in Haliburton which was in a blind trust during his years in office but doesn't mean he didn't make money from it.

The interesting question for Obama will be whether he tries to block investigations into whether The Bush administration, from the top down, actually broke laws with what they did and I mean criminal laws. Obama doesn't want to go there but what kind of legal system do we have if the top can ignore the laws? Did we let Japanese or German leaders off the hook for those laws after WWII? Did we say it was okay what Hussein did or what Milsovic did? So it will be an interesting 4 years even if Obama loses next time to Palin...

Incidentally if you were worried about experience, doubtless you are not one who would support her *s*

Dixon Webb said...

Hi Rain . . . On the contrary you express your political thoughts very well and I am trying to be polite and respectful when commenting about my own.

You are right. In my eyes most citizens know very little about Mr. Obama's background, his political experience, or his executive ability. I should have left it right there.

You are right. I too think his pre-election resume would indicat he is every bit as qualified as Mr. Bush was.

You are right. The Republican party has lost it's way. The principles expounded years ago by conservative leaning advocates have been thrown under the bus. I don't think that means those principles are wrong.

If either Congress or the Supreme Court (or both) decide that any politician from the Executive Branch has broken a law or illegally tried to subvert our Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, or any other legal founding document, they should be prosecuted.

See. We agree on a few things.

Dixon

Rain Trueax said...

I imagine we would as I consider myself more of an in the middle person than liberal (although I call myself liberal for the fun of it but my stands tend to go back and forth).

And I enjoy those who comment here and disagree like you do as in respectfully. We can do that.

Always Question put up a blog that says a lot of what I feel-- that I am sick of both parties using their names as an excuse to not do the business of those who pay them. It's been a very disillusioning time when we have seen how they operate and it's not about doing right but just making their own power structure stronger. That doesn't help us as a people

Ingineer66 said...

Good post Rain. Both parties seem only interested in furthering their power. There are no real statesmen anymore. In 2006 the Dems could have elected a moderate as Speaker of the House that could have drawn Congress and the country together. But instead they picked Nancy Pelosi one of the most whacked out left wing people in Congress. And the Republicans have done no better. Both sides have been spending like drunken sailors and that is going to be the downfall of the country.
Pelosi got $50million to save some endangered mouse in her district put in the "stimulus" bill. The only thing that will stimulate is more campaign contributions for her.
If the government is going to tell the companies that took bailout money how much to pay people and what they can and cannot buy then they should tell them not one more campaign contribution or speaking fee for any elected person. I do not want my tax dollars going to pay off politicians.

Ingineer66 said...

PS you consider yourself a moderate and I consider myself pretty moderate, but we are somewhat apart on many of the issues. I guess that is what makes this country great.

OldLady Of The Hills said...

Rain, I think this Post is BRILLIANT. And I so admire your ability to express what you feel in a way that truly doesn't insult anyone!
That is not one of my gifts.
So....let me say, I thank You for speaking for me in a rational manner. Given my mouth, I would tell Cheney, Bush, and ALL those Old White Men in Washington to go F--k themselves!
Enough Said!

CJ said...

You would think that someone who spent that many years teaching the Constitution (which, by the way, should be capitalized) would understand that rights are not granted to people by the government. Rights are ours, with or without the government's say-so.

Yet, according to the Obama White House website, "The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms."

cjh

Rain Trueax said...

I am trying to follow your reasoning, cj. You are upset that Obama says the constitution gives men the right to own weapons?

Do you think that a government cannot take away rights, that somehow a god gives them and therefore there is no need for a government to spell out what is and is not okay? If you read much history, you know why our beginning government did spell out what rights were to be included. Governments, including Republican ones, do sometimes take away what some would consider basic human rights... like say from the Bill of Rights.

And why would it matter if i capitalized constitution or not? I go back and forth on whether I capitalize a lot of letters; but if you thought it means I am not one who considers the constitution to be a sacred document, you were right. I think it is a baseline and can be changed. Ours has been amended multiple times including the one that lets me vote. It wasn't a right that in this country or for that matter around the world women (or minorities) always had

Peggy said...

Rain;

I was reading Kay D. blog and she said that If we're looking for a blog with a thoughtful take on what's happining in this world of ours...read Rain. Well here i am, wanting more!
I consider myself an Independent thinker and an Independent voter too. I never know which side I'm on til the very end.
I! love the give and take on your blog...really do1
I also checked out one of your other blogs and got myI life #

Rain Trueax said...

Thank you, Peggy. It meant a lot to me what Kay said and I am happy it brought you to this blog. I try to write the truth but it is as i see it and I recognize others see it otherwise which is why comments are so important to an 'idea' blog.

CJ said...

Rain -

I keep thinking that we could have an interesting discussion about a great many things... yet I'm afraid I'd end up feeling as though I'd been banging my head against a wall, which isn't something I tend to do often.

A couple of questions -

Where was this vaunted 'transparency' when it came to the 'stimulus' package? How come no one in congress was given the opportunity to read the thing because it absolutely had to be voted on immediately... and then it wasn't signed for four days in order to afford The One a photo op in Denver?

How do you feel about the health care provisions that were snuck into it? Or the 'debt forgiveness' snuck in at the last moment that will allow GM to avoid paying back half the interest of their governmental loan? Are you even aware that these things are in there?

And, finally here's what the Second Amendment actually says:

"a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Compare that with "The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms."

If you cannot clearly see the difference and why it matters... I'm banging my head against a wall and nothing I can say truly matters here.

cjh

Rain Trueax said...

I agree cj and feel the same way. For you and I to communicate in a meaningful way is impossible. You believe what you believe and you have sources you trust. I wish you well but trying to talk to you would leave me feeling the same way.

As for the information for anyone who is interested in going beyond what the Rush Limbaugh fringe says, here is where you can find it online: http://www.recovery.gov/

I got an email from a friend that gave every single state and exactly what projects they had proposed they could do right away. An example is California

This is the exact act: Exact bill in pdf And you can do a search on a pdf for those who heard Rush Limbaugh say you cannot.

I tend to agree with Limbaugh on one thing although I wouldn't compare Republicans to murderers and rapists, but it's very hard for the right and left to understand each other right now. There are those to the right, like say ingineer, where he and I can have debates and communicate in a positive way, but there are others, and clearly cj is among them, where it only frustrates both sides. I do read a few right wing opinions but stick to them in the major newspapers for the most part, not the right wing bloggers as they do just drive me nuts with what to me is their lack of logic.

I do plan a blog soon on what Obama inherited, as a baseline for the situation our country faces because I feel that the right has already, and began it before the inauguration, seen everything that is wrong is the fault of the left. For doing anything at all, Obama will be blamed and if he did nothing, he would be too. I can only hope the majority of Americans continue to look for themselves and not blogs like mine or anybody else's. The information is out there for those who want to see it for themselves.

Travelin'Oma said...

Your rant and the comments were much more interesting and enlightening than any of the newspapers I've read lately. Thanks for taking the time to write a great piece.

Unknown said...

..."yet I'm afraid I'd end up feeling as though I'd been banging my head against a wall, which isn't something I tend to do often."
Amen CJ.
Amen.