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Thursday, January 05, 2023

disagreements okay or not

 

 I have mostly kept this blog away from politics or religion for more or less selfish reasons. I don't want the hassle I find when I comment on such topics in places like Facebook where I get slammed. Still, it is selfish and I do have many thoughts I discuss with my husband and friends where we sometimes agree or disagree but can talk about it sanely with a final agree to disagree. Most today seem to want to only hear what they already believe and they stay in such cliques. I get it but it's got its drawbacks. 

Today I read a column by Cal Thomas with an ending paragraph to which I much agree. His complaint was we don't have intellectuals leading either party or even getting elected. He named those in the past who were but couldn't think of one today-- to name anyway. Here's his comment. 

"There’s a proverb that seems to make my point: “As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another” (Proverbs 27:17). While some theologians say this verse is about human relationships, it might also be applied to intellectual pursuits. Just as playing tennis or golf with someone better than yourself can improve your game, so does keeping company with smarter people — and particularly those with different points of view — make you sharper and better able to vote intelligently and elect people more worthy of holding public office than many who are currently in elective positions or campaigning for them."

Will schools do this, help children and young adults to agree to disagree with intelligent points or is that out of the question for today? 

I personally think this lazy way of thinking also permeates the books most want to read and their entertainment. It has to support their point of view, whatever it is, or many toss them out.

The bobcat was one that visited our Arizona property and watched with concern as it had just killed a bird but was afraid to eat it with being watched. It had a kitten and went back to finish its meal after the paparazzi had left *s*.


5 comments:

Greybeard said...

What bothers me most about "intellectuals" today?
We don't learn from history. When has Marxism/Socialism/Communism ever worked? In Soc101, Psy101, Econ101 we learn basic truths that we seem to have instantly forgotten.
"Doctor it hurts when I do THIS".
How does our Doctor respond?

Rain Trueax said...

It disturbs me too...and all the changes that we don't know are coming and no warnings. Ack!

J said...

I agree. I find that if I have a conversation in person with someone, the disagreements are generally pretty gentle, even if we disagree fundamentally. Online is a different story, so I don't give my opinion a whole lot. On my blog is one thing. On Facebook or whatever, I know I am not going to have a real conversation and people are just there to react, so it's not really worth it. But you're right...losing that discipline, the willingness and ability to sort through why we think and feel as we do, and to listen to others' very real thoughts as well, is dangerous.

Greybeard said...

J-
I'm a BIG fan of Jordan Peterson. He postulates that IF you and I are having a conversation and you offend me, you may lose me as a friend or worse... I may punch you in the nose to express my discontent with your thoughts.
Online... and anonymously, you can offend me and I cannot physically punish you.
(But I can sure as heck try to humiliate you! And what good does that do?)

Darrell Michaels said...

I always found that I learned the most from engaging with thoughtful people that held different viewpoints from my own. Our interactions would either help me to strengthen my own arguments or show me where I was wrong in my opinions. Unfortunately in the world today, I find very few people on either side willing to discuss and debate current events civilly. Often times when my opinion and/or facts are offered, I will simply be branded with epithets and pejoratives because I have the temerity to disagree with woke ideology. It is sad and doesn't bode well for our kids and our educational system's future.