tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post7886893692777250120..comments2024-03-26T15:30:39.733-07:00Comments on Rainy Day Thoughts: aftermathRain Trueaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-6131568744148829702016-11-15T05:28:36.212-08:002016-11-15T05:28:36.212-08:00I will have one more blog on the aftermath of the ...I will have one more blog on the aftermath of the election on the subject of fear. <br /><br />Looking for the final vote tally has been frustrating and I learned something I'd rather not have known. It turns out when the election is over; and the winner is determined, with the belief absentees won't change anything, they do not count them. It is claimed there are as many as 7 million votes that now will never be counted. That was particularly irritating to learn when they are making a huge deal out of her winning the popular vote. I think all votes should be counted. Without that, talk of winning the popular vote is sort of meaningless. <br /><br />Trump said he still believes the popular vote should determine it and end the Electoral College. After I'd read more about the system we had, I thought it made sense. It would though make it a lot easier on the candidates as they'd never have to travel as much as they do as it stands.Rain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-58777097799984290682016-11-14T18:20:50.578-08:002016-11-14T18:20:50.578-08:00We should always do that even when we have someone...We should always do that even when we have someone we wanted ourselves.Rain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-69975443427278039092016-11-14T14:11:30.990-08:002016-11-14T14:11:30.990-08:00I think you missed my point of the referral to the...I think you missed my point of the referral to the Russian/American journalist's article which is simply the "rules" she described as to what to be aware of and how a nation slides, or is led, into becoming a fascist state. I do think given all the dissension in this nation we are much closer to that sort of event occurring than we have ever been in my lifetime. I believe we would all be wise to know how that can occur and would be equally wise to pay close attention to how our government is administered by the new administration. It is a a mistake to assume that referral to an article such as this indicates that everything the author has written reflects what the person making the referral embraces. To do so is just as condemning as those you are complaining about. ;-)joaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09999395062839739698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-36890182914237147552016-11-14T04:30:40.454-08:002016-11-14T04:30:40.454-08:00It is totally amazing how many say it won't ma...It is totally amazing how many say it won't matter. Well 100 million voters would matter. And 49% of eligible voters not voting in California is shockingRain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-85023708577773798732016-11-13T21:10:53.170-08:002016-11-13T21:10:53.170-08:00Kind of crazy that with all the hoopla about the e...Kind of crazy that with all the hoopla about the election and a ton of statewide ballot measures, here in California only 51% of registered voters bothered to vote. Ingineer66https://www.blogger.com/profile/01319022726561229313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-20539925764608297282016-11-13T14:41:13.135-08:002016-11-13T14:41:13.135-08:00I should be interesting and his toughest opponents...I should be interesting and his toughest opponents are likely to be the right wing fringe. He said though, during the campaign that he'd build a wall, and the first ones he would deport were those with criminal records. Then he said, he'd see about the rest. The problem is a lot of what he says never got reported as it was.<br /><br />The ACA does need to be fixed and the parts he said he was open to keeping were allowing 26yo to stay on their parents insurance and not kicking off those with existing conditions. It will be tough as those who are not on medicare, in a corporation, or having government pensions know how bad ACA is for some families. An example is a friend in Texas. She and her husband have to pay $20,000 a year in premiums and that with $6000 deductible before the insurance kicks in. Who can afford that?<br /><br />My husband will be interested in what he does about regulations as he works helping start-ups and what Trump said is true about regulations stifling them. So, like you said, let's see what he actually does. He doesn't have an easy road ahead however you look at it.Rain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-66176861794793834082016-11-13T12:55:22.458-08:002016-11-13T12:55:22.458-08:00I didn't vote for Trump but after a few days r...I didn't vote for Trump but after a few days reflection I think it ended with the best possible outcome. I think he has the potential to be a dangerous president but with Republican control of the House and Senate he should be kept from being too extreme. I can't help but wonder though whether some Trump voters aren't experiencing some cognitive dissonance right about now. Trump promised the removal of 1l million illegals and to build a great wall. Almost immediately after the election that number dropped to 2.5 million. Obama deported that many during his administration, in fact Obama has deported more illegals than any other president. Newt Gingrich said deporting 11 million and building a wall as promised probably won't happen but it was a great "campaign device". I know that a lot of people voted for him because of his strong rhetoric on immigration. Now, it seems it may be immigration policy as usual. Trump is now saying that he will keep some aspects of the ACA. If the Republicans go along with making adjustments to the law couldn't they have done that during the Obama administration? Again, the rhetoric was quite adamant: repeal the law and come up with something better. A lot of us know that campaign promises are often broken, but the conservative voters this year will want to see some real change. This is going to be a very interesting few years. <br />Wallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18260580684326693193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-40737528740393100742016-11-13T06:29:14.156-08:002016-11-13T06:29:14.156-08:00I looked at it but to me she is following what she...I looked at it but to me she is following what she believes he said based on the snippets from the mainstream media, who often left off the rest of the words. Yes, he said part of it but then there was what tempered it and never was mentioned like regarding Muslim immigrants. <a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/24/donald-trumps-comments-database-american-muslims/" rel="nofollow">Politifact</a>. <br /><br />And I've been trying to get the final popular vote tally but one side says that he now won it based on absentee ballots while the other says she won by 400,000 votes (mostly due to California and New York-- of course, we want those two states to elect all our presidents as what does the rest of the country matter???). <br /><br />What has irked me is the demand by some that the Electors break with results from their own states and instead vote for the one who got the most votes. So cheating again as a way to win-- something the DNC did during the primaries to deny Bernie the nomination-- with the Clinton team going so far as to get some of the questions from Brazile. <br /><br />If states want to divide their Electors, they are free to vote within the state and do it. I doubt California would go for that since something like 30% voted for Trump but he got none of the 55 Electors. Nebraska and Maine divide theirs. Getting rid of the Electoral College though is not happening as it would take 2/3 of the states voting to do it. Not happening in states who already feel overlooked. <br /><br />I don't think Trump voters wanted a dictator. they wanted change and many voted for Obama for the same reason. They were angry at jobs going overseas to the profit of the wealthy class and leaving workers high and dry. They were concerned that some enter this country illegally and it's overlooked. They were angry at the ACA premiums going to $20,000 a year (one family I know made up of just a husband and wife and with a $6000 deductible). And of course, there was always Hillary's baggage which some, like me, voted for her anyway but not happily.Rain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-10735917555563715382016-11-12T17:32:37.840-08:002016-11-12T17:32:37.840-08:00I highly recommend reading this commentary I becam...I highly recommend reading this commentary I became aware of just today. She's a prominent highly respected 49 year old Russian and American Journalist Masha Gessen who has had first hand experience living different countries:<br />http://www2.nybooks.com/daily/s3/nov/10/trump-election-autocracy-rules-for-survival.htmljoaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09999395062839739698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-89510463133297346322016-11-12T06:49:15.547-08:002016-11-12T06:49:15.547-08:00I don't know that Trump feels that way given h...I don't know that Trump feels that way given his daughter and the power he has given her. He also had a woman running his campaign. Even the Clintons pay their females less than the males in their Foundation.<br /><br />For me, social issues were big reasons I voted for her. That and the environment with his unwillingness to learn about the science behind global climate change. I had righties tell me he wouldn't end abortion. He won't have to. He will appoint a new Supreme Court justice who will take a case that says it's not a Constitutional right. Then it will go back to the states where some, like Oregon, already had it legal before Roe v. Wade. Some of those judges would also undo the right of marriage as they are conservative and very right wing. <br /><br />I didn't like having to vote for her considering how I saw her but those big issues were too big to not vote or vote for a third party and then see him get it. In some ways, if the left wasn't acting so nutso, her getting more votes than him limits his power. I just hope the anarchists (those who want to use violence and those who just cry their way to power) don't undo the fabric of our government. Wanting to change the Electoral College is fine; but you do it after the fact, not retroactively-- and it won't happen with the need to have 2/3 of the states ratify a Constitutional Amendment. <br /><br />The one I see pushed the most with now several million votes, is asking the Electors to cheat. That should not surprise me since Dems didn't mind when she cheated her way to get the nomination. It shouldn't but it has. We have a system in place and both candidates ran knowing they had to take certain states to win. It enhances the view that we are a nation made up of states, not just individuals. The majority doesn't rule on many things as the Constitution and courts determine rights. Yet here are the lefties out there suggesting that Electors behave faithlessly, make a lie of their promise and try to hand her the vote based on her big majorities in California and New York. Makes me regret voting for her... except back to the environment, social issues, and the Court... but still this is disgusting-- not as bad as rioting in the streets (where that happens with any excuse) but in some ways more dangerous.<br /><br />The thing is we can continue to put pressure on the government many ways and in two years get a democratic Congress... We could but guess that's too much work and signing a stupid petition doesn't take much. grrrrrrrrr Rain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-46411920102988746942016-11-12T06:07:22.277-08:002016-11-12T06:07:22.277-08:00Moat people do not realize that Trump is neither a...Moat people do not realize that Trump is neither a Democrat or a Republican, but an Opportunist and I just hope he does not destroy the earth with his energy czar folks and their push to bring up more oil at the lowest profit margins ever. As a woman I cannot help but feel discriminated by the language and behavior of his closest aides. They see women as lessor and not equal. Taborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15257045780724471840noreply@blogger.com