tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post6904618686079669000..comments2024-03-26T15:30:39.733-07:00Comments on Rainy Day Thoughts: Study of evolution leads to...Rain Trueaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-75682564908931770502010-12-17T23:18:24.666-08:002010-12-17T23:18:24.666-08:00Funny, I posted to my blog this evening, and then ...Funny, I posted to my blog this evening, and then dropped by your site. Different takes—your post and mine—but same idea... those I will admit, I am a gloomy Gus. You are more optimistic. I enjoyed reading this post of yours.Mike McLarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17881672365554137673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-74645880369100824622010-12-17T14:02:22.611-08:002010-12-17T14:02:22.611-08:00As I have said,I have no use for any religion-- wi...As I have said,I have no use for any religion-- without exceptions and that includes new agey types. I think religion is detrimental and some, like say Jewish require you to be born into it by having your mother be Jewish or make a conversion which requires extensive studying of the Jewish beliefs. I just see religion as negative.<br /><br />That said, Christians could be those who followed the teachings of Jesus, which means love your neighbor, feed the poor, heal the sick, visit the prisoners in jail, help those you don't know who might be from a different faith or ethnic group as in the Good Samaritan story. It doesn't have to be fundamentalist anymore than other faiths must be fundamentalist-- but can. To me the problem is in religion period. Religions are about rules, about certain required sacred days or things to do. I am sure there might be some that don't but then would they be a religion...Rain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-31930942269269169852010-12-17T08:17:48.424-08:002010-12-17T08:17:48.424-08:00There are of course people of all faiths who quest...There are of course people of all faiths who question all aspects of religion and science. The structure of Christianity, however, requires all followers to believe in Jesus and the trinity. Nothing more is required for them to be saved in the afterlife meaning Christianity requires abandoment of rational questioning in some areas like on where we came from. It is sad to me that when one area of observation is discounted, there is a chance that such people will be used by a manipulative, distructive power seekers like Hitler.Diane Widler Wenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05270246393901276648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-67746248897191768222010-12-16T22:08:45.440-08:002010-12-16T22:08:45.440-08:00I don't recall where I found this quote:
The ...I don't recall where I found this quote: <br /><i>The logic proffered fails as an argument because it requires us to accept the lack of knowledge as knowledge, and the lack of evidence as evidence. ... If we follow the this line of reasoning we must accept the conclusion that the more evidence we lack … the greater the likelihood that God exists. The argument beckons for God to be defined as “the sum of all knowledge yet acquired."</i>Robert the Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10863488312604865183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-57966320188593940302010-12-16T10:25:17.946-08:002010-12-16T10:25:17.946-08:00There is a hell. It's an all white, Republican...There is a hell. It's an all white, Republican country club. Heaven is where all the rest of us go to enjoy paradise.mandthttp://adgitadiaries.blog-city.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-64570556169091504402010-12-16T09:10:03.213-08:002010-12-16T09:10:03.213-08:00I am sure not all Christians think this way either...I am sure not all Christians think this way either, parapluie. What I am talking about here are creationists-- fundamentalists. And most religions have them.<br /><br />And Paul, are we seeking comfort or truth? Do we want to believe a lie even if it is one just because it makes us happy.<br /><br />Did you read the guy who the gunman missed at 15 feet (for whatever reason) in the Florida shooting. The man said God deflected the bullet. Fundamentalists get all excited at that testimony but what does that say for all the ones who gunmen have killed? God wanted them dead? God could have saved them too but didn't. More likely, despite what the police said, this guy did not mean to kill anybody but himself. He could have killed the woman who hit him with her purse but he didn't. Not many miss at 15 feet... and I don't think God deflected that bullet but that guy will give talks for years about how he did and it will be gospel to a certain group who ignore all the other undeflected bullets sometimes even at children.Rain Trueaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994628226501093880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-37072273075420170722010-12-16T09:02:59.201-08:002010-12-16T09:02:59.201-08:00I can't do much about where we (homo sapiens) ...I can't do much about where we (homo sapiens) came from. What concerns me more is where we are going. I believe that something is behind creation and Dawkins and Hitchens will not change my mind on that matter. It's all the rage to knock believers, of any religion, today. Science knows all-NOT!! Worldly wisdom has a hold on a lot of people . I hope it gived them solace.Paulhttp://ShadowofDiogenes.blogs.com/shadow/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-9326126169760327552010-12-16T09:01:07.137-08:002010-12-16T09:01:07.137-08:00"The River that Flows Uphill" is one I w..."The River that Flows Uphill" is one I would really like to read. Thanks for the very well written blog. In Christianity where you are asked to "Just Believe and your life will be changed and you will be saved" is dangerous sounding to me. I am not sure that all religions are so. I think that Jews and Budhists are taught to do the opposite and have debates that increase cognitive abilities and the likelihood of accepting scientific thinking. Some Jews and Budhists consider their religion and science as tools for processing and not a battle of what fact is.Diane Widler Wenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05270246393901276648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22918248.post-91547492596423051932010-12-16T06:56:48.460-08:002010-12-16T06:56:48.460-08:00The proof of this is in holy texts.
The problem, ...<i>The proof of this is in holy texts</i>.<br /><br />The problem, of course, is that once we accept holy texts as proof of anything, there aren't two stories, there are a hundred. There's no reason to privilege Genesis over the utterly-different creation myths found in Hindu, Shinto, Maya, Sumerian, etc. texts -- or, for that matter, over the thousands upon thousands of creation stories found in societies which had no sacred texts only because they had no writing.<br /><br />The originators of all these, including the authors of Genesis, had one thing in common: they were in no position to know anything, anything at all, about how the universe formed or how life developed.<br /><br />If, on the other hand, we do what police detectives or historians do and look at the evidence to reconstruct what actually happened, there are not two views, or a thousand -- there's only one.<br /><br />You're right that teaching creationism in the schools would teach people to reject evidence in favor of the decrees of a supernatural bully, and would make us less capable of understanding, and therefore dealing with, the world around us. I would say that it also denigrates human achievement. Most religions claim that modern humans are "fallen" from some earlier perfect state which, in fact, never existed. When we contemplate our real origins, the violence and cruelty and vulnerability of ape societies (and of primitive human societies as represented by actual surviving hunter-gatherer cultures, not by comfortable fantasies), and the limitations of the mental tools which natural selection gave us, we can recognize our modern civilization and technology for the tremendous achievement that it is.Infidel753https://www.blogger.com/profile/10965786814334886696noreply@blogger.com